Today's raw chat log

[9:56] Mark Combellack: Agenda:
- Roll Call
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/membership.php?wg_abbrev=sca-j
- Appointment of scribe. List attached below
- Agenda bashing
- Approval of minutes from Dec 5


Issue Status:
Open: 57


1. Review action items:

Action Items that I believe are done:
2008-11-11-4:Dave to draft email to raise an objection to TC admin decision (regarding package name - JAVA-6)
2008-11-11-6:SimonN to write up a proposal outlining spec changes needed to not support message correlation on call backs for JAVA-25
2008-11-11-9:Mark to write up state diagram on blackboard for JAVA-65 from November F2F
2008-11-11-19: Dave to come up with proper words for JAVA-30 based on Mike's proposal at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200807/msg00068.html

Action Items that I believe are still to be done:
2008-07-15-2:Vladimir to produce a proposal for JAVA-2
2008-10-06-1:Editors to fix all the other remaining ed issues for WD04 pointed out by Mark, SimonN and Vamsi
2008-10-06-2:Anish - Work with OASIS Staff to get CD01 published
2008-10-13-2:Editors to update references to the [ASSEMBLY] style
2008-10-20-1:Simon to write new proposal with textual changes for JAVA-76
2008-11-11-1:Simon to raise 3 issues for each C&I wrt what happens if the annotation rules are not followed (SCA Runtime MUST NOT deploy the component)
2008-11-11-3:Simon to provide proposal for JAVA-6
2008-11-11-5:MikeE and Dave to write up a proposal to JAVA-1 covering the options decided at the Nov F2F
2008-11-11-7:Mark to propose a delta to Simon's action (2008-11-11-6) on JAVA-25 to add support for message correlation on call backs
2008-11-11-8:SimonN to write spec change proposal to resolve JAVA-19 as directed at the Nov F2F
2008-11-11-12:Mark to write proposal for JAVA-46 drawing inspiration from the chat log of day 2 of the November F2F
2008-11-11-13:Dave to work on proposal for JAVA-60
2008-11-11-15:SimonN to write proposal to simplify stateful implementation mechanism to replace conversations (JAVA-21)
2008-11-11-21:  Mark, Jim and Mike to describe their use cases for JAVA-30
2008-11-11-22:Mark to draw up some wording for Direction 1 (as discussed at the November F2F) for JAVA-62
2008-11-11-23:  Mark (and others prepared to help) to investigate the WorkManager JEE spec and determine its applicability to SCA for JAVA-62
2008-11-11-26:SimonN to figure out how JAXB converts Java types into either XML schema types of global elements or possibly both
2008-11-11-27:SimonN to raise issue on brain-damaged definition of @Service annotation (see comments in Nov F2F raw chat log)
2008-11-11-31:Martin to consider what does compliance mean (to the SCA-J specs)
2008-11-11-32:Martin to raise with the liaison committee what does compliance to the SCA specs mean
2008-11-11-33:Simon to write up proposal for JAVA-67 (not in previous minutes but Simon is sure he has this action item)


2. Schedule
a. Issue Assignments.
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200812/msg00010.html
b. Keeping up with editorial workload.
c. Can we make Feb 23 public review for all 5 specs?
d. Motion: Starting Dec 9, all new issues MUST be accompanied by a proposal that can be voted on.


3. Package name appeal (JAVA-2
a. CD01 upload is stalled pending this appeal.
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200812/msg00007.html
b. The board expresses confusion. We owe a response.
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200812/msg00009.html


4. Accepting New Issues
a. JAVA-85: ejb binding @uri has the wrong schema
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-85
Proposal: Reject this new issue

b. JAVA-109: Property and reference names computed from SCA annotations in web modules not specified explicitly
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-109

c. JAVA-110: Incorrect entry for Servlet filters in table of web artifacts for dependency injection
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-110

d. JAVA-111: @Constructor value attribute should not be optional
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-111


5. Blocking Issue discussion
a. JAVA-55: SCA Java Specifications do not Adequately Define the ComponentType of a Java implementation
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-55

b. JAVA-95: Simplified stateful implementation mechanism to replace conversations
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-95

c. JAVA-25: Callback Simplification
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-25


6. Other Open Issues discussion

a. JAVA-30: "Process" Scope
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-30
proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200812/msg00006.html

b. JAVA-52: RequestContext.getCallbackReference() description inadequate
proposal: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-52

c. JAVA-65: There is no lifecycle defined for SCA Components
http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-65
proposal: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/sca-j/200811/msg00095.html

d. JAVA-89: Java EE Spec: Section 7.1.1 & 7.1.2 - should say that the EJB references are optionally made into SCA references
proposal: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-89

e. JAVA-90: Java EE Spec: Section 5.1.1 normative change needs ratifying
proposal: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-90

f. JAVA-99: @property and @reference cannot be final
proposal: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-99

g. JAVA-101:  element not fully described in Java CAA specification
proposal: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-101

h. JAVA-102: Need to have a Name parameter on the @Service annotation
proposal: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-102

i. JAVA-103: @Remotable annotation incorrectly marked as optional in Java EE spec
proposal: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-103

j. JAVA-62: Clarify what a Component Implementation can do with threads
proposal: http://www.osoa.org/jira/browse/JAVA-62


7. AOB


---------------------------------------------------------------
Rotating scribe list:

Peter Walker Sun Microsystems (1)
Roberto Chinnici Sun Microsystems (2)
Peter Peshev SAP AG (2)
Ron Barack SAP AG (3)
Michael Beisiegel IBM (3)
Sanjay Patil SAP AG (3)
Vladimir Savchenko SAP AG (1)
Jim Marino Individual (4)
Meeraj Kunnumpurath Individual (1)
Vamsavardhana Chillakuru IBM (2)
Bryan Aupperle IBM (4)
Ashok Malhotra Oracle Corporation (4)
Martin Chapman Oracle Corporation (4)
Simon Nash Individual (2)
Pradeep Simha TIBCO Software Inc. (5)
Mike Edwards IBM (5)
Anish Karmarkar Oracle Corporation (6)
Yang Lei IBM (1)
Plamen Pavlov SAP AG (1)